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Okay, I finally did it. :|

After putting it off and hoping for help and solutions that I knew were out there somewhere, I reluctantly listened to the nudges of "just reinstall the OS to fix it" , to get my system 9 driver problems fixed.

And so now... it has fixed nothing, ...but I have to face the additional drudgery of manually fixing all my settings to what they were. -_-

Thank goodness for backups. I've gone down the high-hopes road before with Mac.

Yes it broke my desktop.
It broke my printers.
It broke my internet connection.
And who knows what else... *huge weary sigh*

And *still* it didn't solve the problem of drivers that can recognize the fact that I have only one monitor, and that I would like to use graphics programs, and put the machine to sleep instead of turn it off. I can do none of these, and reinstalling the OS did not fix it.

Yes, I use system X. Yes I am a part of the converted crowd.

But after using something (pre-system X) for some 15 years *because* of its appeal, I don't understand the widespread urge to diss it altogether just because something new comes along. Can't they exist together? They do exist together, and I don't see anything wrong with liking my Classic programs.
Eudora Pro, ...fast and text-based, effectively stopping spam and junkmail images that are unwelcome.
Muddweller, ...clean and capable and fast.
And so many other programs.

So yes I use system X.

But it is so disheartening that hardly anyone really cares about system 9 ... and trying to get it to work right. Guess ya really can't blame 'em. Still, it'd be nice if the simple answers to fix it, were easy to find... :/

Date: 2007-01-29 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secret-wolver.livejournal.com
I'm a windows user (For now) and I enjoyed using 98 and hated switching to XP. It was only then when I started having problems. If it wasn't for a computer crash and Microsoft not supporting 98 anymore I'd still be using it.

So, I fully understand what Ceagle is going threw.

Date: 2007-01-29 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c-eagle.livejournal.com
Thanks for the comment... yeah XP sucked as badly as system X did for a while after it came out. Like molasses so very slowwwww.. and I'd find myself saying, "who's gonna fall for that?" But I guess it's just the spoon-feeding of progress.

And after a couple years, both systems now operate better than they used to, though it's complete horseshit that Mac OS X is crash-proof. I see more crashes on Macs in the last few years than I do on Windows any more. That's part of why I went to using iCab as my main browser, because it is such a solid relief in the midst of all that crash-happy mac stuff. Nowadays I also use Firefox (on both systems) a lot, but it really is like children's wooden blocks compared to iCab in customizeability.

But yeah, if it wasn't for Windows, I wouldn't be computing much at all lately. I've got a slick 1.7 ghz machine I got at Fry's for just around $200 brand new last year at this time, and it is rock solid. Thanks to [livejournal.com profile] level_head I already had a nice monitor and speakers, and after adding a $60 video card, I could use nice video game capabilities like SecondLife. I don't think the OS has ever crashed even once. On the Mac in system X, a month doesn't go by that ya don't get the endless spinning beach ball, or a program that pukes or won't even open. There are still subtle capabilities in editing with Photoshop on the Mac that make it a better option, though... so I feel that sting.

Apple has taken a die-hard advocate, and turned me into a "blase who cares which OS" user, and lately even into a "windows is better for most things now" user. It's much easier to debug the registry than Apple-BSD packages and kernels. And while those can be fun learning experiences, when it comes to my home machine, I just want things to work. :|
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Date: 2007-01-29 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c-eagle.livejournal.com
hehheh.. I work with many versions of the OS, with different clients. :9

You don't plan on upgrading?? nyah ah ah!!... wot do you mean you won't upgrade? you can't escape now!! 8> 8>

*fuzzles ya* :>
So yeah, I have to deal with system 9 machines, and system 10.1.5+, 10.2.4+, and 10.3.4+ mostly... and all of 'em are sticky now n then.
The one I was working on two days ago was a 10.2.8 eMac, and they also had an XP machine, and a Win98 machine that both needed attention. It can be hard to explain to folks that this is the real world... a huge number of people don't upgrade that often, because things just *work* for them.

One multimillion dollar bizness I know wants to keep their billing in a DOS program.. they say, hey, it works, and the billing lady likes it!

So anyway, I digress.. :> .. but yep, that's the one I was referring to.

I keep multiple versions of as many Os'es as I can on useable machines for testing and work reference, 10.1, .2, and .3 (not 10.0 though.. that's fairly useless). Just because I like system 9 on my personal machine, the townspeople wanna torch me a lot of the time, but it's not hurting anybody.. *peep*

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yay!

Date: 2007-01-30 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c-eagle.livejournal.com
Sorry it took me an extry day to get back to you, kind sir.. I took a day off the net yesterday.. highly zonked :>

Totally heartily agree with ya on the 10.3.9 declaration, dragony! ^V^ *wags*
Itsa sorta rhetorical fact, but true, since that isn't what's affecting my system, but indeed a fact that if all the people with whom I worked would upgrade to 10.3.9 or greater, or 10.4.5 or greater, many of their problems might be solved. *peep*

*wags to the fuzzlin'* Glad to hear a system 9 machine helps ya out sometimes ^V^ ... I'm sorta lookin' forward to the MacBooks down the road also, but I know it's down the road, since it's doubtful I'll buy any new (either for financial or foundational reasons) Apple products any time soon.... 8|

So you havion' probs with PS and Illo too? *wingpats gently*.. that's ouchy... -_-
Yeah, I'm either using CS on 10.3.9 or Elements on XP right now, until I can get those others running again.
I just tried another ATI installation last night, and it still didn't help.... getting "system components missing" errors, so I think I may need to locate a factory-system-9 installer disk.

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