it's not yo mama's star trek
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ceagleThat's pretty much their slogan.. and yep, pretty accurate :D
Everybody seems to like it, and I'll say it's pretty good, especially the acting...
1. Definitely... all the acting was very convicing, I was really sucked into the experience
That said, there were some incongruencies that they will have to patch up somehow along the way in other movies, if they are aware of it...
2. The Uhura-Spock thing. I know there were some very small examples of this in the original series, but never indicating they had ever had any magnetism in their younger years.
3. Blowing up Vulcan. Wasn't Vulcan still intact in the series?
4. That includes killing Spock's mom and Kirk's dad. She was definitely present in the original series.
5. Elder Spock. I didn't really see any major point in him being there.
The main thing is that whenever ya write a story that involves time travel, ya walk a very narrow line of audience belief and consistency. I was willing to accept most if not all of these twists, since they already made it clear that different time planes can exist, even to the point of the same person old being in the same moment as the same person young. I was willing to accept them, guessing that they would patch up these messes by the end of the movie, by perhaps having the black hole regenerate the crew along the known timeline and facts of the original series, still as younger actors, but still. As you probably know, they didn't patch 'em up... so, I guess I'm hoping they are taking these into account for the next movie.
Some changes are fully acceptable and understandable, like the presence of other aliens in the Federation on the Enterprise, but changing core known elements from the main series is a little touch and go.
I will probably keep seeing these and enjoying them like everyone iz, but I wouldn't rate it better than The Wrath of Khan ... ;D
Everybody seems to like it, and I'll say it's pretty good, especially the acting...
1. Definitely... all the acting was very convicing, I was really sucked into the experience
That said, there were some incongruencies that they will have to patch up somehow along the way in other movies, if they are aware of it...
2. The Uhura-Spock thing. I know there were some very small examples of this in the original series, but never indicating they had ever had any magnetism in their younger years.
3. Blowing up Vulcan. Wasn't Vulcan still intact in the series?
4. That includes killing Spock's mom and Kirk's dad. She was definitely present in the original series.
5. Elder Spock. I didn't really see any major point in him being there.
The main thing is that whenever ya write a story that involves time travel, ya walk a very narrow line of audience belief and consistency. I was willing to accept most if not all of these twists, since they already made it clear that different time planes can exist, even to the point of the same person old being in the same moment as the same person young. I was willing to accept them, guessing that they would patch up these messes by the end of the movie, by perhaps having the black hole regenerate the crew along the known timeline and facts of the original series, still as younger actors, but still. As you probably know, they didn't patch 'em up... so, I guess I'm hoping they are taking these into account for the next movie.
Some changes are fully acceptable and understandable, like the presence of other aliens in the Federation on the Enterprise, but changing core known elements from the main series is a little touch and go.
I will probably keep seeing these and enjoying them like everyone iz, but I wouldn't rate it better than The Wrath of Khan ... ;D
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Date: 2009-05-16 07:26 am (UTC)Oh, they were aware of it, and that was the point.
It was even said towards the end of the movie that what happened created a branch in the timeline from what has already happened, to what will now happen.
The writers opted not to go with the "what has happened, has happened, even if the characters from the future were responsible for what happened in the past to make their future happen" (ie, circular time theory), to the timeline branch in order to give them creative freedom for the future, to not be boxed in by the already established timeline with future films, yet at the same time not discarding the point of the original timeline (which had to occur for the events of this film to occur)
It does make sense, in a wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey fashion ;>
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Date: 2009-05-16 09:11 am (UTC)Like ah said, I will probably allow it, and ultimately enjoy it more, if they address these later, even in some small, believable way... ;>
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Date: 2009-05-16 09:15 am (UTC)Personally, I'd feel it was a cheat if they "undid" anything that happened in this movie. Especially since they went out of their way to show that it was an alternate timeline. Besides, this gives them the opportunity to genuinely boldly go where no one has gone before...because we genuinely don't know what's coming now!
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Date: 2009-05-18 09:35 am (UTC)*hehe I've never been a trekster so I know nothing about ST*